Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/mar/08/brexit-rudd-says-uk-keeping-cool-head-as-it-plans-response-to-nerve-agent-attack-on-russian-spy-politics-live

QuoteThe Commons Brexit committee has published the confidential government Brexit impact report which ministers wanted to keep private. It models three Brexit outcome, and concludes that Britain would become poorer over the next 15 years under all three. And it quashes suggestions that there would be a "Brexit dividend". (See 1.16pm.) The government does not accept the conclusions are valid, because officials did not model the Brexit outcome it hopes to achieve, but campaigners claim the report shows Theresa May is pursuing a policy that she knows will damage the economy. Open Britain, which is campaigning for a soft Brexit, released a statement from the Labour MP Chris Leslie saying:

QuoteThe government can no longer conceal the grim fact that they are leading us to a new era of austerity. As new facts like these emerge about the monumental costs of Brexit, everyone is right to keep an open mind about whether it is all worth it.

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

I am sorry but as the government said, this report is invalid because they didn't calculate with the exact Brexit deal the government would like to achieve.


Of course you don't get unicorns when you don't include unicorns! This whole study is a farce.


crazy canuck

Quote from: Tamas on March 08, 2018, 10:34:28 AM
I am sorry but as the government said, this report is invalid because they didn't calculate with the exact Brexit deal the government would like to achieve.


Of course you don't get unicorns when you don't include unicorns! This whole study is a farce.

Well, the UK government says it will achieve the same trade ties and all the asserted benefits of Brexit.  It is all sunshine rainbows and lollipops don't you know.

Tamas

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 08, 2018, 11:12:28 AM
Quote from: Tamas on March 08, 2018, 10:34:28 AM
I am sorry but as the government said, this report is invalid because they didn't calculate with the exact Brexit deal the government would like to achieve.


Of course you don't get unicorns when you don't include unicorns! This whole study is a farce.

Well, the UK government says it will achieve the same trade ties and all the asserted benefits of Brexit.  It is all sunshine rainbows and lollipops don't you know.

Precisely. The people have spoken, now the EU just needs to get on with it.

Zanza

The EU is playing hardball on the Irish Question:
QuoteSpeaking in Dublin alongside the Irish prime minister Leo Varadkar, European Council president Donald Tusk said talks would be a case of "Ireland first" and that "the risk of destabilising the fragile peace process must be avoided at all costs".

"We know today that the UK government rejects a customs and regulatory border down the Irish Sea, the EU single market, and the customs union," the Council president said.

"While we must respect this position, we also expect the UK to propose a specific and realistic solution to avoid a hard border.

"As long as the UK doesn't present such a solution, it is very difficult to imagine substantive progress in Brexit negotiations.

"If in London someone assume that the negotiations will deal with other issues first before than the Irish issue, my response would be: Ireland first."

[...]

Mr Tusk added recalled that the Good Friday Agreement, whose 20th anniversary is next month, had been "ratified by huge majorities north and south of the border".

"We must recognise the democratic decision taken by Britain to leave the EU in 2016 – just as we must recognise the democratic decision made on the island of Ireland in 1998 with all its consequences," he said, in a play on the rhetoric used by Brexiteers regarding the 2016 EU referendum.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-talks-irish-border-tusk-varadkar-northern-ireland-uk-solution-dup-a8246216.html

Josquius

At last a clear and honest speech on brexit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uzeLuxKkNM&feature=youtu.be


Shame it took editing to get here :(
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Zanza



Josquius

The Speaker of the House, who is meant to be officially neutral in all matters....has a Bollocks to Brexit sticker on his car :lol:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/03/13/john-bercow-faces-backlash-b-brexit-car-sticker/

Makes me sad he's the speaker. Would be good to have another sane Tory on side.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Tyr on March 13, 2018, 04:17:08 PM
The Speaker of the House, who is meant to be officially neutral in all matters....has a Bollocks to Brexit sticker on his car :lol:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/03/13/john-bercow-faces-backlash-b-brexit-car-sticker/

Makes me sad he's the speaker. Would be good to have another sane Tory on side.

That is probably why they made him the Speaker.

Josquius

One piece of positive brexit related news today.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43398417

:w00t:

Leading far right hate group with 2 million followers, infamous for luring people in with innocent stuff like "Like and share if you love dogs", only to follow with xenophobic bollocks..... deleted from facebook.
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Gups

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 13, 2018, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 13, 2018, 04:17:08 PM
The Speaker of the House, who is meant to be officially neutral in all matters....has a Bollocks to Brexit sticker on his car :lol:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/03/13/john-bercow-faces-backlash-b-brexit-car-sticker/

Makes me sad he's the speaker. Would be good to have another sane Tory on side.

That is probably why they made him the Speaker.

They didn't really. He got there on Labour votes for the most part.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Gups on March 14, 2018, 08:16:52 AM
They didn't really. He got there on Labour votes for the most part.

That seems to have been a Labour miscalculation.

Maladict

Thanks for the Unilever HQ, Brits  :bowler:

Nice that Rotterdam also got something after Amsterdam took the EMA.