Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[HVC]

look at the lawyer blaming the accountant

[Malthus]

look at the lawyer blaming the accountant

Oh yes, "blame". That's what I was doing.   

[HVC]

it's all well and good to hide money from the tax man until your wife leaves you and takes all your stuff .

[Malthus]

it's all well and good to hide money from the tax man until your wife leaves you and takes all your stuff .

That's when our friends the accountants generate work for us lawyers.

It's the circle of life! 

[Savonarola]

it'd feel more sympathy for "but it's history" if these monuments were put up right after the war rather than after the 1900 to intimidate black people.

The south was economically devastated after the Civil War, and there was an army of occupation there.  Putting up a lot of monuments to the Confederacy during Reconstruction wasn't a realistic possibility.  (Intimidating black people was, though, the Klan was founded in 1866, and was parading by 1867.)

[HVC]

took 40 plus years to build up the monument budget?

[Savonarola]

took 40 plus years to build up the monument budget?

The last federal troops didn't leave until 1877; and it took about 25 years for any measure of prosperity to return to the south, which is the point when you start seeing the monuments starting to be built.  Jim Crow laws began immediately after reconstruction ended.

This isn't to say that the monuments are "History," rather they're a reinterpretation of history where the south was a romantic "Lost Cause."  (Hollywood kept this myth alive until the 1940s.)

[Malthus]

took 40 plus years to build up the monument budget?

The last federal troops didn't leave until 1877; and it took about 25 years for any measure of prosperity to return to the south, which is the point when you start seeing the monuments starting to be built.  Jim Crow laws began immediately after reconstruction ended.

This isn't to say that the monuments are "History," rather they're a reinterpretation of history where the south was a romantic "Lost Cause."  (Hollywood kept this myth alive until the 1940s.)

Now, alas, that romantic reinterpretation is ... gone with the wind.

[Eddie Teach]

Lee didn't own slaves.

Yes he did. What is your source?

Snopes. His father-in-law did.

[The Minsky Moment]

Lee didn't own slaves under his own name because his father and brothers squandered the family fortune to the point that Light Horse Harry ended up in debtor's prison.  Before that the family owned slaves though.  Robert E solved that personal problem by marrying back into money (or at least landed wealth).  It wasn't like his wife's family foisted slaves upon him. 

[Oexmelin]

 

"It is the punishment of the South that its Robert Lees and Jefferson Davises will always be tall, handsome and well-born. That their courage will be physical and not moral. That their leadership will be weak compliance with public opinion and never costly and unswerving revolt for justice and right. It is ridiculous to seek to excuse Robert Lee as the most formidable agency this nation ever raised to make 4 million human beings goods instead of men. Either he knew what slavery meant when he helped maim and murder thousands in its defense, or he did not. If he did not he was a fool. If he did, Robert Lee was a traitor and a rebel–not indeed to his country, but to humanity and humanity's God."

[Valmy]

DuBois is a real joy to read if you ever feel like picking him up.

Hey you can then go mention it in the non-white authors thread.

[The Minsky Moment]

Except Lee really was a traitor to his country. 
Which matters because so many of his present day defenders also pose as puffed up patriots.

"America right or wrong"    More like "American except when right"

[CountDeMoney]

Except Lee really was a traitor to his country. 
Which matters because so many of his present day defenders also pose as puffed up patriots.

"America right white or wrong"    More like "American except when right white"

[derspiess]

Hey Seedy, have you joined the John Brown Gun Club yet?