The Off Topic Topic

[Josquius]

Friends I've had who've moved to the Netherlands have not been fans. I think if you're not Dutch (and certainly if you're British), Dutch honesty and bluntness can look a lot like rudeness and racism.

I never got this from them to be really. They're blunt and to the point, but in a very welcome way which isn't too negative. They know how to say please et al.
Quite different to the French who are just rude rude. Its baked into their language that they cannot be anything but.

[Grey Fox]

You find France french rude?   

[The Larch]

France and the French language is just another thing that we can't expect tyr to be objective about. 

[Sheilbh]

I never got this from them to be really. They're blunt and to the point, but in a very welcome way which isn't too negative. They know how to say please et al.
Quite different to the French who are just rude rude. Its baked into their language that they cannot be anything but.

One anecdote I heard was about the first time a friend saw that a girl had put "No blacks and no Arabs" in their Tinder bio.

His Dutch colleagues thought this was fine because it just said that she wasn't interested and let everyone know where she stood. All of his British friends were kind of horrified and felt even if you do have that personal bigotry you just swipe left, no need to add it to your bio. As I say Dutch = rude and racist; British = hypocritical and deceitful.

(As an aside I have seen this from gays in many locations on Grindr but it's racism agains Asians typically).

[garbon]

I never got this from them to be really. They're blunt and to the point, but in a very welcome way which isn't too negative. They know how to say please et al.
Quite different to the French who are just rude rude. Its baked into their language that they cannot be anything but.

One anecdote I heard was about the first time a friend saw that a girl had put "No blacks and no Arabs" in their Tinder bio.

His Dutch colleagues thought this was fine because it just said that she wasn't interested and let everyone know where she stood. All of his British friends were kind of horrified and felt even if you do have that personal bigotry you just swipe left, no need to add it to your bio. As I say Dutch = rude and racist; British = hypocritical and deceitful.

(As an aside I have seen this from gays in many locations on Grindr but it's racism agains Asians typically).

And fats, fems...and blacks too. I don't really get the point though as do people putting that in their bio really get swamped by people who match those descriptors? And even if they did, can't they politely just ignore such messages?

[Valmy]

Quite different to the French who are just rude rude. Its baked into their language that they cannot be anything but.

[The Brain]

I never got this from them to be really. They're blunt and to the point, but in a very welcome way which isn't too negative. They know how to say please et al.
Quite different to the French who are just rude rude. Its baked into their language that they cannot be anything but.

One anecdote I heard was about the first time a friend saw that a girl had put "No blacks and no Arabs" in their Tinder bio.

His Dutch colleagues thought this was fine because it just said that she wasn't interested and let everyone know where she stood. All of his British friends were kind of horrified and felt even if you do have that personal bigotry you just swipe left, no need to add it to your bio. As I say Dutch = rude and racist; British = hypocritical and deceitful.

(As an aside I have seen this from gays in many locations on Grindr but it's racism agains Asians typically).

Isn't Tinder about er... romantic partners? How are sexual preferences bigotry?

[garbon]

I never got this from them to be really. They're blunt and to the point, but in a very welcome way which isn't too negative. They know how to say please et al.
Quite different to the French who are just rude rude. Its baked into their language that they cannot be anything but.

One anecdote I heard was about the first time a friend saw that a girl had put "No blacks and no Arabs" in their Tinder bio.

His Dutch colleagues thought this was fine because it just said that she wasn't interested and let everyone know where she stood. All of his British friends were kind of horrified and felt even if you do have that personal bigotry you just swipe left, no need to add it to your bio. As I say Dutch = rude and racist; British = hypocritical and deceitful.

(As an aside I have seen this from gays in many locations on Grindr but it's racism agains Asians typically).

Isn't Tinder about er... romantic partners? How are sexual preferences bigotry?

How are racial preferences not bigotry? How can a non-bigoted mind so easily write off attraction to an entire race - particularly when there can be so much variation of appearance within a  racial category?

[Sheilbh]

And fats, fems...and blacks too. I don't really get the point though as do people putting that in their bio really get swamped by people who match those descriptors? And even if they did, can't they politely just ignore such messages?

Yep. It does only seem to be Grindr in my experience. But I just find it really weird because it's like if you got unwanted attention at a bar and instead of saying "no, thanks" you just decided to dress in a Klan outfit.

You'll probably get less unwanted attention, but you're really opening up to being judged by others.

[Duque de Bragança]

Friends I've had who've moved to the Netherlands have not been fans. I think if you're not Dutch (and certainly if you're British), Dutch honesty and bluntness can look a lot like rudeness and racism.

I never got this from them to be really. They're blunt and to the point, but in a very welcome way which isn't too negative. They know how to say please et al.
Quite different to the French who are just rude rude. Its baked into their language that they cannot be anything but.

Chillax little Englander, the French have a word for please as well.

[Sheilbh]

Not to leap to Tyr's defence here, but surely England isn't the only country where the French have a reputation for being rude. I find that very hard to believe.

[The Larch]

Not to leap to Tyr's defence here, but surely England isn't the only country where the French have a reputation for being rude. I find that very hard to believe.

Parisians have a reputation for being rude, moreover Parisian waiters. The rest of the country is ok. Now, smug is a different deal. 

[Valmy]

Not to leap to Tyr's defence here, but surely England isn't the only country where the French have a reputation for being rude. I find that very hard to believe.

I mean I guess but it is baked into their language so they are compelled to be rude? As in they are somehow culturally unable to NOT be rude? That is such idiotic bullshit that even the most psychotic francophobe would be hard pressed to come up with.

[Valmy]

Not to leap to Tyr's defence here, but surely England isn't the only country where the French have a reputation for being rude. I find that very hard to believe.

Parisians have a reputation for being rude, moreover Parisian waiters. The rest of the country is ok. Now, smug is a different deal. 

They all were nice to me 

But yeah this would be equivalent to taking every negative stereotype of New Yorkers and then claim it applies to every single speaker of English somehow.

[Duque de Bragança]

Not to leap to Tyr's defence here, but surely England isn't the only country where the French have a reputation for being rude. I find that very hard to believe.

Parisians have a reputation for being rude, moreover Parisian waiters. The rest of the country is ok. Now, smug is a different deal. 

Stupid tourists deserve it, OTOH. 
I would agree about waiters though, too much tourist clientèle and they go crazy it seems.