The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[Tonitrus]

Probably the most appropriate thread for it...

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-police-raid-rio-de-janeiro-favela-7e7951f400615914cf5dcff6bf7e5959

Death toll from Rio de Janeiro police raid on drug gang rises to 121

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — The death toll in a massive police raid targeting a drug trafficking gang in Rio de Janeiro rose to at least 121 people, authorities said Thursday.

An operation launched Tuesday in two of the city's favelas sparked intense gunbattles that left at least four police officers dead and an unknown number of people wounded.

Officials raised the death toll from 119 to 121, but further details on the two new deaths weren't immediately available.

Brazil's public defender's office filed a request Thursday with the Supreme Court requesting access to the forensic evidence concerning the police victims. The office reports 130 deaths in the raid, more than the official police numbers.

[Valmy]

Well the cops sure gave more than they got. What a bloodbath, even by American standards that is shocking. Hundreds must be wounded for that many to have been killed.

[grumbler]

Well the cops sure gave more than they got. What a bloodbath, even by American standards that is shocking. Hundreds must be wounded for that many to have been killed.

The vibe I get is that the police and military were not interested in leaving gang members alive.  Probably a fair few wounded bystanders, though.

[DGuller]

Well the cops sure gave more than they got. What a bloodbath, even by American standards that is shocking. Hundreds must be wounded for that many to have been killed.

Even by American standards?  Come on, have some perspective.  Cops being thugs in uniform is a rule rather than the exception in much of the world.  By European standards American cops may be a little trigger happy, but to put them in the same sentence with Brazilian cops where extrajudicial executions after arrest are a fact of life?

[Valmy]

Well the cops sure gave more than they got. What a bloodbath, even by American standards that is shocking. Hundreds must be wounded for that many to have been killed.

Even by American standards?  Come on, have some perspective.  Cops being thugs in uniform is a rule rather than the exception in much of the world.  By European standards American cops may be a little trigger happy, but to put them in the same sentence with Brazilian cops where extrajudicial executions after arrest are a fact of life?

My apologies, I didn't mean it like that. I meant the scale of the number of people getting killed. We have lots of mass shootings but nothing like that.

[Valmy]

Well the cops sure gave more than they got. What a bloodbath, even by American standards that is shocking. Hundreds must be wounded for that many to have been killed.

The vibe I get is that the police and military were not interested in leaving gang members alive.  Probably a fair few wounded bystanders, though.

Yeah my other thought was unless they were shot execution style and that might have been the case.

[DGuller]

Definitely seems like a fuckup by police.  Kill a dozen or two per week, and that's just business as usual in Rio.  Kill 120, and now you have forums in US talking about it.  Definitely not something you want to have happen if you want to keep executing people in peace.

[crazy canuck]

Yeah, before you know it they will start wearing masks and grab innocent people off the street.

[Jacob]

Definitely seems like a fuckup by police.  Kill a dozen or two per week, and that's just business as usual in Rio.  Kill 120, and now you have forums in US talking about it.  Definitely not something you want to have happen if you want to keep executing people in peace.

My understanding is that the operation was ordered by a local official (mayor / governor ?) to shore up his populist, anti-crime, you-gotta-break-a-few-eggs credentials; so the whole over the top nature of if may very well be intentional.

Though, if the internet can be believed, the guy has plenty of organized crime connections himself just, you know, to different groups than the ones targetted.

[Duque de Bragança]

Definitely seems like a fuckup by police.  Kill a dozen or two per week, and that's just business as usual in Rio.  Kill 120, and now you have forums in US talking about it.  Definitely not something you want to have happen if you want to keep executing people in peace.

My understanding is that the operation was ordered by a local official (mayor / governor ?) to shore up his populist, anti-crime, you-gotta-break-a-few-eggs credentials; so the whole over the top nature of if may very well be intentional.

Though, if the internet can be believed, the guy has plenty of organized crime connections himself just, you know, to different groups than the ones targetted.

Probably the most appropriate thread for it...

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-police-raid-rio-de-janeiro-favela-7e7951f400615914cf5dcff6bf7e5959

Death toll from Rio de Janeiro police raid on drug gang rises to 121

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — The death toll in a massive police raid targeting a drug trafficking gang in Rio de Janeiro rose to at least 121 people, authorities said Thursday.

An operation launched Tuesday in two of the city's favelas sparked intense gunbattles that left at least four police officers dead and an unknown number of people wounded.

Officials raised the death toll from 119 to 121, but further details on the two new deaths weren't immediately available.

Brazil's public defender's office filed a request Thursday with the Supreme Court requesting access to the forensic evidence concerning the police victims. The office reports 130 deaths in the raid, more than the official police numbers.

Not exactly surprised.

[Syt]

37-year-old American woman shot in Minneapolis.

https://apnews.com/live/minneapolis-ice-shooting-updates

An Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer shot and killed a Minneapolis motorist on Wednesday during the Trump administration's latest immigration crackdown on a major American city — a shooting that federal officials claimed was an act of self-defense but that the city's mayor described as "reckless" and unnecessary.

Videos taken by bystanders with different vantage points and posted to social media show an officer approaching an SUV stopped across the middle of the road, demanding the driver open the door and grabbing the handle. The SUV begins to pull forward and a different ICE officer standing in front of the vehicle pulls his weapon and immediately fires at least two shots into the SUV at close range, jumping back as the vehicle moves toward him.

It was not clear from the videos if the vehicle made contact with the officer. The SUV then sped into two cars parked on a curb nearby before crashing to a stop. Witnesses screamed obscenities, expressing shock at what they'd seen.

The shooting marks a dramatic escalation of the latest in a series of immigration enforcement operations in major American cities under the Trump administration. The killing of the Minneapolis motorist, whose name wasn't immediately released, was at least the fifth death linked to immigration crackdowns since 2024.

Here's what we know:

What Homeland Security said: Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, during a visit to Texas, described the incident as an "act of domestic terrorism" carried out against ICE officers by a woman who "attempted to run them over and rammed them with her vehicle. An officer of ours acted quickly and defensively, shot, to protect himself and the people around him."

What the mayor said: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey blasted Noem's characterization as "garbage" and sharply criticized the federal deployment of more than 2,000 officers to the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul as part of the immigration crackdown. "What they are doing is not to provide safety in America. What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust," Frey said, calling on the federal agents to leave.

What the police chief said: Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara briefly described the shooting to reporters but gave no indication that the driver was trying to harm anyone. He said she was shot in the head. "This woman was in her vehicle and was blocking the roadway on Portland Avenue. ... At some point, a federal law enforcement officer approached her on foot, and the vehicle began to drive off," the chief said.

The White House commented that the mayor is a scumbag who should be ashamed of himself.