The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

Started by Syt, August 11, 2014, 04:09:04 AM

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Ed Anger

Fuck John Crawford. He caused a panic and a woman dropped dead.

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grumbler

Quote from: Ed Anger on September 01, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
Fuck John Crawford. He caused a panic and a woman dropped dead.

Exactly.  By forcing the police to shoot him,* he directly caused the death of a 37-year-old woman who died of a heart attack when she heard the gunshots.

I also don't know how he couldn't have expected to die when he threatened the police, after being shot, by saying "it's not real."  Suicide by cop?


* They really didn't have a choice; he was facing away from them, and using the gun as a cane while he talked on the phone.  Clearly, a man facing away from police and talking on a phone is about to murder them.  And not killing him on the spot, or even telling him to turn around, would obviously be "running away."
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Ed Anger

I knew they would be trouble when they put that RTA bus stop at Fairfield Commons.
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Berkut

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/06/dash_cam_footage_from_open_car.html

Apparently it is possible to deal with someone acting irrationally and armed without just blowing him away 20 seconds into the stop.
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CountDeMoney

Oh, Jeffrey...you know damn well a crazy white guy walking around with an assault rifle is nowhere near as dangerous as an unarmed black teen.

garbon

I'm glad that they didn't kill that guy but man...that sure underlines the treatment of whites vs. blacks.
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Berkut

What I thought was interesting (and encouraging) about that article was that the cops were actually discussing the legal and constitutional implications of their options.

Mostly it seems like cops are not aware of those implications, or if they are, it is strictly from the standpoint of "Have we done the minimum so we can pretend like we met them?"
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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
Oh, Jeffrey...you know damn well a crazy white guy walking around with an assault rifle is nowhere near as dangerous as an unarmed black teen.

Was the white guy harming anyone?  I think they were a bit lenient on him but he kept his distance from people and didn't seem to really be much of a threat.  A bit different from punching a cop inside his car and going for his gun.
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Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on September 08, 2014, 11:20:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
Oh, Jeffrey...you know damn well a crazy white guy walking around with an assault rifle is nowhere near as dangerous as an unarmed black teen.

Was the white guy harming anyone?  I think they were a bit lenient on him but he kept his distance from people and didn't seem to really be much of a threat.  A bit different from punching a cop inside his car and going for his gun.

Is that what all those dead black guys were doing?

CountDeMoney

It's what negroes do.  If it's not our white women, it's our guns.

derspiess

Quote from: Jacob on September 08, 2014, 11:21:22 AM
Is that what all those dead black guys were doing?

Oh, I thought this one Michigan case was being compared against the Missouri one this thread was started for. 
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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 11:25:26 AM
It's what negroes do.  If it's not our white women, it's our guns.

Keep on white knighting, white knight.  I shudder to think how they'd get along without you.
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garbon

Quote from: derspiess on September 08, 2014, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: Jacob on September 08, 2014, 11:21:22 AM
Is that what all those dead black guys were doing?

Oh, I thought this one Michigan case was being compared against the Missouri one this thread was started for. 

There have been a lot more fatal shootings of black people since then*, many of which have been discussed in this thread.

*really before then too.
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Quote from: derspiess on September 08, 2014, 11:31:13 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2014, 11:25:26 AM
It's what negroes do.  If it's not our white women, it's our guns.

Keep on white knighting, white knight.  I shudder to think how they'd get along without you.

As I am not afraid of black people, I never felt compelled to shoot any of them.  Creepy ass cracker.