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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6360 on: September 08, 2020, 09:45:30 pm »
Same. Or police training. I just *love* how delightfully ignorant, naive, or archaic of an understanding of the various shades of the Alt-Right certain people here have. "Militia groups! They're the alt-right!" Yeah. Ok. Please come into the 21st century. The militia groups are the tiny fringe element of the modern movement in terms of numbers and influence.
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6361 on: September 09, 2020, 12:02:43 am »
More charming behaviour by armed thugs pretending to be a police force :

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/08/linden-cameron-police-shooting-boy-autism-utah

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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6362 on: September 09, 2020, 06:41:07 am »
Is this article even half-way accurate?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gxa4/pba-card-police-courtesy-cards?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Because it is mind-boggling to me that this exists :blink:
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6363 on: September 09, 2020, 07:02:05 am »
Is this article even half-way accurate?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gxa4/pba-card-police-courtesy-cards?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Because it is mind-boggling to me that this exists :blink:

This paragraph seems like it could just as easily apply to the UK:

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In practice, Correia and Wall said those who are able to “get off easy” from an encounter with the police typically look and act a lot like Mike, an affable white person who respects police authority and is careful to address them with friendly deference—to act the part of the sheepish, apologetic innocent who understands that the cop is “just doing their job.”
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6364 on: September 09, 2020, 08:44:36 am »
Is this article even half-way accurate?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gxa4/pba-card-police-courtesy-cards?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Because it is mind-boggling to me that this exists :blink:

I've known quite a few cops and I never got one of those cards :angry:
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6365 on: September 09, 2020, 08:51:12 am »
I've known quite a few cops and I never got one of those cards :angry:

They probably discovered we were anti-public sector unions :(
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6366 on: September 09, 2020, 08:52:57 am »
Is this article even half-way accurate?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gxa4/pba-card-police-courtesy-cards?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Because it is mind-boggling to me that this exists :blink:
Yes, NYPD is very notorious for this.  I know someone who mentioned that this card got him out of five tickets, as he was describing how he avoided being arrested for shooting off illegal fireworks. 

Hopefully NYPD is the worst of the lot when it comes to this.  Obviously this is corrupt as fuck, but just as obviously, police union doesn't see it that way.  They don't even realize how bad it sounds that this card is requesting that "every courtesy is to be extended to the holder", as if the regular civilians are not deserving of courtesy from police.

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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6367 on: September 09, 2020, 09:22:10 am »
I imagine those stickers people get have a similar effect.
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6368 on: September 09, 2020, 09:36:27 am »
Is this article even half-way accurate?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gxa4/pba-card-police-courtesy-cards?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Because it is mind-boggling to me that this exists :blink:
Yes, NYPD is very notorious for this.  I know someone who mentioned that this card got him out of five tickets, as he was describing how he avoided being arrested for shooting off illegal fireworks. 

Hopefully NYPD is the worst of the lot when it comes to this.  Obviously this is corrupt as fuck, but just as obviously, police union doesn't see it that way.  They don't even realize how bad it sounds that this card is requesting that "every courtesy is to be extended to the holder", as if the regular civilians are not deserving of courtesy from police.

I recall a bit about these cards/stickers years ago, probably on John Oliver, John Stewart, or Colbert Report.
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6369 on: September 09, 2020, 10:35:08 am »
I imagine those stickers people get have a similar effect.
From what I heard, not really.  The PBA card is pretty special, because there is an individual cop behind one, and defying the card means risking a conflict with the officer to gave it.  All the memorabilia that you get from donating to police under one guise or another (another totally not corrupt practice) is far more likely to be ignored.

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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6370 on: September 09, 2020, 10:40:39 am »
Is this article even half-way accurate?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gxa4/pba-card-police-courtesy-cards?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Because it is mind-boggling to me that this exists :blink:

Amazing that this is legal.
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6371 on: September 09, 2020, 01:55:04 pm »
Only thing I ever got was a poker chip from a buddy of mine who is a US Marshal. 
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6372 on: September 09, 2020, 02:01:10 pm »
Only thing I ever got was a poker chip from a buddy of mine who is a US Marshal. 

Assisting you with illegal gambling eh?
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6373 on: September 09, 2020, 02:05:47 pm »
Only thing I ever got was a poker chip from a buddy of mine who is a US Marshal.

Was it:  platinum?
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Re: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« Reply #6374 on: September 09, 2020, 02:13:16 pm »
Is this article even half-way accurate?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7gxa4/pba-card-police-courtesy-cards?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

Because it is mind-boggling to me that this exists :blink:

Surprisingly nuanced article for Vice.  They do point out that it's all just a matter of discretion, which police have all the time anyways.  And the last thing you'd ever want is for police to not have any discretion in laying charges.

I'm kind of shocked at the numbers though - NY PBA hands out 20 cards per officer per year.  That's a lot of fucking cards.  I'm happy to at least see that the cards are tied to specific officers and that they do double-check them, but still.

And mostly - I'd be mortified to put any cop friend of mine in such a position.  In my years as a Crown I've been pulled over twice.  Neither time did I ever mention being a Crown.  Once the cop did figure out who I was (I was driving a government-owned vehicle) and he did not give me a ticket, the other didn't figure it out and did.