Author Topic: The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD  (Read 392869 times)

Syt

  • Neil
  • ***************
  • Posts: 31351
  • Spooktober Time
The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD
« on: August 11, 2014, 04:09:04 am »
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/10/justice/missouri-police-involved-shooting/index.html?hpt=us_c2

Quote
Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests

(CNN) -- Protests in Missouri around the death of an unarmed teen turned violent late Sunday.

A gas station was looted, and police called for additional units to back up officers already on the street, said Brian Schellman, spokesman with the St. Louis County Police Department.

Video from the scene showed police in riot gear. No injuries were immediately reported.

"They are sending in more officers to try and get the situation under control," Schellman said.

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that at least 20 police cars were damaged and that the use of tear gas was a high possibility.

A friend and witnesses say Missouri teen Michael Brown was unarmed and had his hands in the air when a Ferguson police officer shot and killed him, but that account is in dispute.

"The genesis of this was a physical confrontation," Jon Belmar, chief of the St. Louis County Police Department, said at a Sunday news conference.

The officer tried to leave his vehicle just before the shooting on Saturday afternoon, but Brown pushed him back into the car, "where he physically assaulted the police officer" and struggled over the officer's weapon, Belmar said.

A shot was fired inside the police car, and Brown was eventually shot about 35 feet away from the vehicle, Belmar said, adding few details because he didn't want to "prejudice" the case.

All shell casings collected at the scene were from the officer's weapon, Belmar said. He further said the medical examiner would issue a ruling on how many times Brown was shot, but "it was more than just a couple."

The account was in stark contrast to those of witnesses who said Brown did nothing to instigate the shooting and appeared to be surrendering when he was killed.

"My son just turned 18 and graduated high school and he didn't bother nobody," the young man's mother, Lesley McSpadden, told CNN affiliate KSDK.

Ferguson Police cars do not have dash cameras, the department said.

McSpadden was told her son was shot eight times, though witnesses had varying accounts of how many shots were fired. Brown was supposed to start classes at Vatterott College on Monday, she said.


Antonio French, the Ward 21 alderman in nearby St. Louis, tweeted numerous photos and videos from the aftermath of the Saturday shooting. Brown was shot shortly after 2 p.m., according to reports.

Hundreds of demonstrators -- as many as 1,000 at the height of the protests, according to police -- converged on the scene Saturday, at one point driving away a police squad car, French said on Twitter.

Scores of police officers lined the street. One of them held the leash of a barking dog, and French said some officers wielded shotguns. One image showed a riot van on the scene.

Demonstrators held their hands in the air and chanted, "We are Michael Brown." Others held signs, including one that said, "No justice, no peace" and another that read, "Police stops should not = dead kids." There were reports that some protesters yelled, "Kill the police."

Demonstrators at one point set a Dumpster on fire, according to CNN affiliate KMOV, and Ferguson Police Chief Jackson told KSDK, "It did get a little tense when, twice, several shots were fired."

The Ferguson Police Department called more than 100 officers from 15 jurisdictions to secure the scene, KMOV reported.

"We had what probably bordered on riot conditions," Jackson said, explaining that it took hours to process the scene, collect evidence and move Brown's body.

Later, according to media reports, about 100 people took their protest to the Police Department in Ferguson, a northern suburb that's about a 20-minute drive from St. Louis. Officers were deployed to ensure the demonstrations were peaceful, the police chief said.

McSpadden had pointed words for the officer who shot her son.

"You're not God. You don't decide when you're going to take somebody from here," she told KSDK.

Jackson said the St. Louis County Police Department was conducting an independent investigation, and during the Sunday news conference, Belmar expressed doubts that Jackson would've called his department so promptly "if he had something to hide."

The officer who shot Brown is on paid administrative leave during the investigation and will be available to talk to county homicide detectives.

The officer has been with the force six years, Belmar said, adding that he is "unaware of any other issues that he's been involved in."

He will be required to undergo two psychological evaluations before returning to duty, Belmar said.

The St. Louis County NAACP is asking the FBI to open an inquiry and said it would conduct its own investigation into the killing.

"We plan to do everything within our power to ensure that the Ferguson Police Department as well as the St. Louis County Police Department releases all details pertinent to the shooting," local chapter President Esther Haywood said in a statement.

A Justice Department spokeswoman said Attorney General Eric Holder has instructed the department's civil rights division to monitor the developments in the case.

The FBI said it is assisting police in its investigation and will review the findings.

Federal authorities typically await completion of the local investigation before deciding whether federal action is needed.

Brown was spending the summer in the neighborhood with his grandmother, Desuirea Harris, she told KMOV. She described him as "a good kid."

He was walking with at least one other man at the time of the incident, Jackson said.

Witnesses told CNN affiliate KTVI that a police officer in a squad car grabbed Brown while he was walking.

Dorian Johnson said he was walking with Brown in the middle of the street when a police car pulled up. The officer told the teens to use the sidewalk, according to Johnson.

After an exchange of words, the officer shot Brown even after he raised his hands in the air, Johnson said.

The officer "shot again, and once my friend felt that shot, he turned around and put his hands in the air," Johnson told KMOV. "He started to get down and the officer still approached with his weapon drawn and fired several more shots."

The police chief declined to divulge specifics about the case, including what preceded the shooting.

Brown enjoyed music and had recently graduated from Normandy High School in Wellston, his uncle Bernard Ewing said.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2015, 02:25:27 am by Syt »
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

CountDeMoney

  • Global Moderator
  • Neil
  • *****
  • Posts: 54796
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 09:48:16 pm »
And everybody in St Louis begins playing to type. 

Phillip V

  • Furry
  • *********
  • Posts: 3596
  • Woodman
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 09:50:28 pm »

CountDeMoney

  • Global Moderator
  • Neil
  • *****
  • Posts: 54796
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 10:06:11 pm »
Wise move to scoot it over to the FBI for investigation, if only for the PR and damage control.

FBI will never find an FBI-related shooting as unjustified, but they have no problem getting all scrutinizing and whatnot on the local gendarmes.

derspiess

  • Blessed by Valmy
  • **************
  • Posts: 27484
  • beer fixes everything
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 10:20:10 pm »
Apparently this guy was a perfect human being and planned to go to college.  Why is it always those types who seem to be the ones physically attacking cops?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

  • Global Moderator
  • Neil
  • *****
  • Posts: 54796
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 10:21:03 pm »
 :lol:

Personally, I never understood the cops that insisted on fucking with people for the sake of fucking with them.

derspiess

  • Blessed by Valmy
  • **************
  • Posts: 27484
  • beer fixes everything
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2014, 10:32:14 pm »
:lol:

Personally, I never understood the cops that insisted on fucking with people for the sake of fucking with them.

Some people are just assholes I guess.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

  • Neil
  • ***************
  • Posts: 53345
  • let's play bullets and bracelets
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 11:06:53 pm »
:lol:

Personally, I never understood the cops that insisted on fucking with people for the sake of fucking with them.

Some people are just assholes I guess.

And isn't that why people become cops? :unsure:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

  • Blessed by Valmy
  • **************
  • Posts: 27484
  • beer fixes everything
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 11:19:47 pm »
:lol:

Personally, I never understood the cops that insisted on fucking with people for the sake of fucking with them.

Some people are just assholes I guess.

And isn't that why people become cops? :unsure:

Well, that & violent criminals.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

  • Blessed by Valmy
  • Neil
  • **************
  • Posts: 36229
  • Madman of Languish
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 11:26:24 pm »
Apparently this guy was a perfect human being and planned to go to college.  Why is it always those types who seem to be the ones physically attacking cops?

This is from around where my dad used to live.  I've still got a lot of family near by.  I have no idea what's going on over there.  The police story doesn't make a lot of sense to me yet.  One thing is certain.  I wouldn't want to be outside in North County tonight.  This might actually be a good time to be packing a firearm if you are a white guy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

  • Global Moderator
  • Neil
  • *****
  • Posts: 54796
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2014, 12:15:42 am »
And isn't that why people become cops? :unsure:

I did it for the car.  Man, was I sold short.  Fucking shitty powder blue Taurus with 4 cylinders.  Don't go back to the Caprices until I leave or anything, people.

CountDeMoney

  • Global Moderator
  • Neil
  • *****
  • Posts: 54796
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2014, 12:18:11 am »
This is from around where my dad used to live.  I've still got a lot of family near by.  I have no idea what's going on over there.  The police story doesn't make a lot of sense to me yet.  One thing is certain.  I wouldn't want to be outside in North County tonight.  This might actually be a good time to be packing a firearm if you are a white guy.

I'm sure there will be ample opportunity for derdeadniggers to get the proper body count he wants.

Razgovory

  • Blessed by Valmy
  • Neil
  • **************
  • Posts: 36229
  • Madman of Languish
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2014, 12:52:12 am »
Yeah, you could do that.  I wouldn't suggest it though.  Good way to have your house catch on fire. The shooting took place about three miles from where my dad grew up.  It's sort of a rough neighborhood.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DontSayBanana

  • Can I Be: Ottoman Empire
  • ***********
  • Posts: 7165
  • Heute ist ein guter Tag zum sterben!
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2014, 07:31:43 am »
I did it for the car.  Man, was I sold short.  Fucking shitty powder blue Taurus with 4 cylinders.  Don't go back to the Caprices until I leave or anything, people.

Heh.  Sounds like the local yokels from when I lived in Millville.  10+ year old Crown Vics except for the two black Chargers with NOS.  The cops getting to drive them must feel like they won the lottery. :lol:
Experience bij!

CountDeMoney

  • Global Moderator
  • Neil
  • *****
  • Posts: 54796
Re: Fatal police shooting in Missouri sparks protests
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2014, 08:15:21 am »
Except those two probably catch nothing but shit about it.

"So Batman, who'd you blow to get the Dodge?"